First time Seeing an Intaglio

Sorry I have gotten so behind but it’s been a busy few days.  On Wednesday the Class of 2014 girls had a women’s lunch and we had a great time talking about how the lifestyle is impacting us more than a year in.   It was a terrific conversation in an interesting setting as Cori offered us entrance to the local yacht club.  A yacht club in the desert, you say?  That doesn’t make much sense, you wonder? Understandable, as that was pretty much all of our reactions.  Greg’s parents had done some research on Quartzsite knowing that their son was going there (and how cool is that?) and bought Cori and Greg a membership to the Quartzsite Yacht Club.  Some enterprising soul started the Yacht Club many years ago and for $30 you can become a member.  Most yacht clubs across the country have reciprocal arrangements and now Greg and Cori can gain entrance to yacht clubs everywhere they go.  Yep, they are fancy like that. The yacht club has a membership of over 10,000 people and is billed as the largest (by membership count) yacht club in the world.  There must be something to the reciprocal arrangement because the place itself is your basic bar.  The prices on food are reasonable and although the burgers aren’t that great, the fish and chips was excellent and it was fun for the sheer novelty if nothing else.

The motel sign adds a special ambiance to the site

The motel sign adds a special ambience to the site

It does have a boat out front

It does have a boat out front

Inside the Yacht..not unexoected

Inside the Yacht..the flags add an international flair 🙂

From left: Deb Barb. Ellen, me, and Cori (our sponsoring member)

From left: Deb Barb. Ellen, me, and Cori (our sponsoring member)

Afterwards, we discovered the Hi Jolly cemetery was close by.  Deb loves old graveyards and Hi Jolly’s grave is the most visited spot in Quartzsite. We were instructed on how to find it by a local and after asking twice more along the way we finally found it.  For the most visited site in Q it’s not that easy to find and the locals like to gesture vaguely and say, “Walk until you see the pyramid,” which isn’t entirely accurate.  Still the story was neat and the grave very unique so I am glad we went.

Look for this sign to enter

Look for this sign to enter

This is the grave site

This is the grave site

Hi Jolly was from Syria and was recruited by the government run a pilot program for the miltary to use camels. The experiment failed but Hi Jolly stayed and became pretty legendary as a local resident. Legend has it his favorite camels ashes are buried in the time capsule in the grave.

Hadji Ali or Hi Jolly as he was called by the Americans came from Syria with 70 camels for a camel calvary experiment that was run by the military.   The experiment failed but Hi Jolly stayed and became pretty legendary as a local resident. Legend has it his favorite camel (Hop) ashes are buried in the round metal capsule in the grave.

And as if this much excitement wasn’t enough in one day, Barb decided that she wanted to check out the naked book store guy.  Yes there is a book store here in town and the gentleman who runs it is pretty famous for running the place in a loin cloth.  I had visited the bookstore when we first got here and was thrilled it was a cold day and he had his clothes on, but things have really warmed up since then.  And since Cori was driving and I was pretty much a captive audience, off we went.  They both went inside, but I stayed outside and looked at a $1 per book section.  Of course, they just couldn’t leave it at that (it’s always the quiet ones you need to watch out for) and encouraged him to come outside and say hi.  Let me just say here, there are things in life you can’t unsee, so please feel free to close your eyes and scroll past the next picture.  Also, keep in mind the front picture is waaaaay better than the backside.  I am still somewhat scarred by that view.   And it’s important to note he loves having his picture taken, practically demands you take a pic with him, so I am absolutely not sharing anything he doesn’t want to be seen. He’s also a pretty good blues musician.

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As much as I have been enjoying the quirky side of Quartzsite, I was really missing nature.  Yes we are in the middle of the desert but La Posa South hasn’t cleared out that much, plus Lee and I haven’t had any alone time in the three weeks we have been here.  We have noticed we start getting a little snippy with each other when we don’t take time for each other, so I planned a nature date for us at the Cibola National Wildlife Refuge.  Cibola was number one on my list of things to do near here because it is on the Colorado river and is a haven for wild birds in winter.  So off we went and although the visitors center was closed it was awesome.  They have a 3 mile auto tour and a 1 mile nature walk.  They ask that you stay in your car and go very slowly so you will not spook the animals. The variety we saw was amazing, and I got numerous first time bird pictures!!

So many ducks and geese

So many ducks and geese

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I spent a lot of time combing through the birds for new identifications. You can see why that would be difficult

So much water for the desert

The lower Colorado River

Family of northern pintails. first for me

Family of Northern Pintails. first for me

American Wigeon's another first

American Wigeon’s another first

It was nice seeing trees again

The 1 mile nature hike it was nice seeing trees again

they had nice benches everywhere and really recommend you sit and wait for awhile to see the birds or other widllife

They had nice benches everywhere and really recommend you sit and wait for awhile to see the birds or other wildlife

At the end of one of the trails there was a nice viewing station of the pond

At the end of one of the trails there was a nice viewing station of the pond

Beautiful trees

Beautiful trees

And nice mountain views

And nice mountain views

We saw numerous small songbirds on the trail but they were very difficult to photgraph

We saw numerous small songbirds on the trail but they were very difficult to photograph

Lee got a shot of this Yellow-rumped Warbler

Lee got a shot of this Yellow-Rumped Warbler

And this southwestern Willow flycatcher

And this Southwestern Willow Flycatcher

Birds nests everywhere

Birds nests everywhere

After the nature hike we continued on the auto tour which was laid out in four grids. the small birds were going nuts for whatever was in these fields

After the nature hike we continued on the auto tour which was laid out in four grids. the small birds were going nuts for whatever was in these fields

So of course there were hawks. Lee got this beautiful shot of an American Kestrel...a first for us

So of course there were hawks. Lee got this beautiful shot of an American Kestrel…a first for us

We saw a herd of mule deer pretty far back from the road

We saw a herd of mule deer pretty far back from the road

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And Sandhill Cranes!!! they stayed back very far as well and I was tempted to get out of the car to get the shot but I follow rules that are arround animal habitat

And Sandhill Cranes!!! They stayed back very far as well and I was tempted to get out of the car to get the shot but I follow rules that are around animal habitat.  Luckily my camera just barely got the shot

My favorite was these owl habitats they had set up which had burrowing owls living in them. They were close to the road and not afraid of the truck at all so I got tons of great shots. My first owl of any kind!!

My favorite was these owl habitats they had set up which had burrowing owls living in them. They were close to the road and not afraid of the truck at all so I got tons of great shots. My first owl of any kind.  So cool!!

Then to top it all off we saw a Giant Egret and Blue Heron

Then to top it all off we saw an Egret and Heron

Love catching these in flight

Love catching these in flight

After the auto tour we still had some time and decided to go and see the Intaglios near Blythe.  Intaglios are made by scraping away darker rock and then pushing down the stone underneath.  These results in a depression full of light stone which holds up remarkably well over time.  They are hard to see from the ground and these particular ones were first seen and reported by light aircraft.  Due to some damage being done by four-wheelers the government has put them behind a chain link fence to protect them.  Deb recommended Lee taking his drone there and I am so glad we did, because he was able to not only get aerial photos but also some cool video.  The place was pretty far down a dirt road and there was only one other couple there besides us.  It was really neat though and I am so glad that we got to see these important historical artifacts.

The entrance to the gate is carefully constructed so only walkers can get through

The entrance to the gate is carefully constructed so only walkers can get through

Each one has a plaque next to it which helped you see the picture from the ground

Each one has a plaque next to it which helped you see the picture from the ground

One of them I could get a pretty decent picture of

One of them I could get a pretty decent picture of

But Lee's drone picture was much better

But Lee’s drone picture was much better.  You can see where ATV’s made tracks and damaged the image some

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This Animal shot was nice. They are not sure what the curl at the bottom is supposed to represent

This Animal shot was nice. They are not sure what the curl at the bottom is supposed to represent

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I didn't even notice this at the time, but this is the only known Intaglio with a penis. Of course Lee picked up on that right away

I didn’t even notice this at the time, but this is the only known Intaglio with a penis. Of course Lee picked up on that right away

The surrounding Desert was also beautiful

The surrounding desert was also beautiful and you could see the farms near the Colorado river

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Lee was having a blast with the drone

Lee was having a blast with the drone

It was wonderful getting out with just the two of us and being surrounded by nature.  Have to make sure it doesn’t go so long before we do this again.  Next up we are going out to an old mining town with Cori and Greg so stay tuned.

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RV-Dreams Gathering in the Desert

I need to start this post out with a couple of retractions.  This is what happens when you are close to the people you are writing about, they have a bit of an issue with creative license and want the record set straight …so instead of burying the mistakes at the bottom like the newspapers do, I will put them front and center.

  1.  Daisy (Jim and Barb’s dog) initially did not like my homemade biscuits, but they think she was having an off day.  We tried them again on a second occasion and she found them yummy.  So Daisy (and her owners) are now back in my good graces. (This is of no relevance, due to the incident. – Lee)
  2. Kelly said when she felt you had to be committed to read my blog she meant that in a good way.  To be fair she was prepping for her first ever colonoscopy and I am not even sure how much of the conversation she followed. (And that represents the total of what anyone needs to know about that, or any other colonoscopy. – Lee)
  3. Cori said she doesn’t read some of my blog because she knows about it anyway because I text her all the time.  That’s fair, but now I am wondering if I should text her less so she can get the full impact of the blog postings…just kidding !!
  4. Finally, Deb says she does not think she and Steve can really go 5 weeks on the black tank under regular circumstances, but she is very confident they can go 4 weeks.  Since either number is amazing and she was so adamant about people not having the wrong impression about her and Steve’s poop frequency, I promised to add it here. (And that represents the total of what anyone needs to know about their, or anyone’s poop frequency. – Lee)

So the above proves that I am not perfect in the blog accuracy department.  I do try hard, but occasionally get it wrong and since my poor friends always have to wonder what the heck I will say next about them, I figured the least I could do was fix these mistakes.  I did however like Ellen’s comments the best, “What an excellent job of capturing our day in Mexico together”…yeah,  she’s my new favorite! (I predict an all new retraction in the next post. Some people never learn. – Lee)

With that out of the way I’ll talk about the last few days.  I had the opportunity to do fill our propane tanks (Cori came with me) and empty our black/grey tanks again (Deb came with me) and it not only got easier, but was kind of fun sharing it with a girlfriend.  In particular when Deb and I went to the dump together she said , “You know they will think we are a lesbian couple.”  My immediate response was, “Well I am happy I could get someone as beautiful as you.”  And it may have been coincidence, but that was the one time I went to the sewer dump and the people around didn’t offer unsolicited advice or make comments.  Here’s the thing;  Deb and I have had 7 kids between us, and Deb raised and helped birth show-goats professionally.  I think between the two of us we can definitely handle a little pee and poop.   Cori went with me to get propane for the first time and the guys there were extremely helpful, although they did warn Cori not to smoke in the car with the propane tanks inside.  First off Cori doesn’t smoke and although I appreciated the common sense warning, I did wonder if guys get a similar warning before they pull away.  Overall, from a self-maintenance standpoint, I feel really great.  Repetition and being deliberate seem to be the key and I absolutely feel I can do this myself going forward.

It wasn’t all about the chores though.  Cori, Deb, and I attended a Blogger Meeting that we found on RVillage one day.  George was the ringleader of the group and most of them read each others blogs frequently.  Deb and Cori had heard of a few of them and were glad to meet the folks behind the blog, and I had a wonderful conversation with a woman who lost her husband 3 months ago and through sheer determination has stayed on the road and is teaching herself to do everything.  This always impresses the heck out of me and gives me hope that if the worst happened, I could do this.  I really wish though that the event would have been structured a bit more.  I was excited about talking to other bloggers about their challenges, what works for them, etc but it was a purely social event.  Still it was nice to meet so many full timers still keeping blogs (daily in many cases) after so many years.

George is in the cowboy hat...sweet guy

George is in the cowboy hat…sweet guy

It also brings up an interesting point, that there are more people out there in the world quietly doing this than I ever would have imagined.  We have met so many people in their 4th or 5th year who have fallen into a rhythm.  Yes, things like the stock market downturn or the weak Canadian dollar can throw them a bit, but they keep doing what they are doing.  Some blog and others do not, but the ones we have gotten to know the best are Steve and Dianne who have had a daily blog for many years called Steve and Dianne’s Excellent Adventure.  Avid ATVers, this is their fourth or fifth winter in Quartzsite and they arranged the 2nd annual RV-Dreamers Gathering.  What a terrific turnout with 39 Dreamers attending and the potluck was absolutely excellent.  It was clear folks pulled out their favorite dishes for this one.  Although many of the folks in Dreamers are retired, there are also a fair amount of us who work on the road and we had a terrific conversation with Les and Sue, Big Boomer on the forum, and their blog is Rambling RV Rat about how they have been doing it for the last 4 years.  What makes RV-Dreams  unique among the RV groups I have been involved in is how it inspires “younger people” to go on the road early.  These folks, like us, have a different set of challenges we face and it’s always a pleasure to have the opportunity to pick their brains, commiserate, and hopefully get some ideas.  

Dianne and Steve are on the left

Dianne and Steve are on the left

An excellent pot luck

An excellent pot luck

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Red talking to Tom who is a fan of my blog..so nice!

Red talking to Tom who is a fan of my blog..so nice!

Lots of conversations happening

Lots of conversations happening.  Boomer is in the orange hat

Lee talking to Bob and looking a little confused. Conincidentally we have been two steps behind Bob since we left the reunion rally, and it was nice to see him again.

Lee talking to Bob and looking a little confused. Coincidentally we have been two steps behind Bob since we left the reunion rally, and it was nice to see him again.

The two people I was most excited to meet in person were Ruth and Dale.  Ruth is a project manager like me and she went on the road 6 months before us.  We bonded over similar personalities, like circumstances, and frankly just going through the same things at the same time.  She was a tremendous support system and friend during the first year, but we had never met since we were mainly on the east coast and she was on the west.  So I was so excited when we finally saw each other in person and gave her a huge hug. (On a quick side note, I can’t believe how much less stressed I am now that the corporate job has gone.  I give all of my corporate working friends huge credit for hanging in there, but wow I haven’t been this stress free since I was a little kid.  Now in all fairness the checks are still rolling in until March and we will see how it goes, but I had layers of stress on me I wasn’t even aware of until I left the job.  Lee even says he can tell I am less stressed because I lose a lot of hair in the shower when things are tough and I have hardly been losing hair at all.  That’s a good thing!!

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Dale on the left and Ruth on the right

The other thing I wanted to mention was despite having spent time with other groups since we have been here, I always feel the most at home with family when I am with other Dreamers.  No disrespect to any other group, but there is a kindness and watching out for each other that I feel the most from my fellow Dreamers.  I truly believe this is a direct testament to Howard and Linda’s rally’s and their example and hopefully they are happy to know that whether they are physically with us or not, they are always there in spirit!!

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First Time Crossing the Border into Mexico

Ellen and Mario were going to Mexico and asked me if I wanted to come along. Normally I would have been very tentative about doing this without Lee, but since Mario is a native Honduran, and Ellen lived in Honduras for a few years and speaks Spanish fluently, I thought who better could I experience my first border crossing with? I went to Cozumel once from a cruise ship, but I have never been into Mexico on my own and was curious to see it and learn about all the things folks talk about.  Lots of RVers cross into Mexico for prescription drugs, dental work, and eyeglasses, so there must be something to it.  Plus, I was missing Lee and this seemed like the perfect day trip to distract me. As soon as my fellow dreamers found out I was going they loaded me up with cash and a list of prescriptions to look out for.    Mario, Ellen and their RV park neighbors Roger and Brenda picked me up at 9am and off we went.  It’s an hour and a half drive down, which seemed long although there was some nice desert scenery along the way.  We went into Yuma, went west a little bit, arrived at the Los Algodones Border Crossing where we paid $6 (per car) to park on the US side and then walked over.

I snuck this picture even though you are not supposed to take pictures of the border crossings

I snuck this picture even though you are not supposed to take pictures of the border crossings

One thing I should mention here is no ID is required to enter Mexico, but you do need a passport to return to the US, so double and triple check that you have your passport before crossing that line.  When you turn the corner immediately you are hit by lots of stores and crowds.  There are numerous men waiting around to “help” direct you to dentists or eye doctors, but when they saw Mario they largely let us be.  There is no real pattern to things so we just started walking down the main street.  Another important note is do not stray off the main streets.  I felt perfectly safe in those areas, but even Mario wasn’t interested in straying too far.  There are numerous police officers and even some members of the military in plain view, but in this case it’s not wise to stray off the path.  Plus you really don’t need to, every building and square inch of sidewalk has stuff everywhere.  At first it was a feast for the eyes and pretty fun, but unfortunately the goods offered became very repetitive as the day wore on. My major piece of advice is to walk and look first and buy later.  The farther back you get from the entrance the more you can negotiate and truly you see the same items over and over.

Immediately inside the entrance

Immediately inside the entrance

The sidewalks had goods on both sides which made them narrow to walk through

The sidewalks had goods on both sides which made them narrow to walk through

The street vendors are interspersed among tons of dentists, optometrists, and pharmacies.  I expected a few of each but there were more than I could count.  We stopped in a pharmacy first and I was impressed by it’s cleanliness and the variety of medications they had.  You can take back anything except certain controlled substances (pain medicine, diet pills, etc) and they will tell you if you inadvertently try to buy something in that category that you cannot take it across the border.  They will sell it to you and even in one case quietly recommended you put it in your pocket and sneak it across, but they are required to tell you.  In our very first pharmacy a retired woman told us a story about how she tried that very thing and was detained for 4 hours and threatened with prison.  So not that I was really thinking along those lines, but that story completely solidified my decision.  Even taking those drugs out of the equation there was an astonishing amount available and no prescription required such as Prilosec, Synthroid, Prozac, Viagra etc.   I picked up Z pak  antibiotics for several people and they cost around $5 for the course of 6 pills.  The prices do vary though from place to place and even depending upon which generic you get, although name brand drugs are also available for a reduced price if you are more comfortable.  Some prescriptions were crazy cheap (Ellen got her medicine for $3 for $100) others not so much and getting them with a co-pay in the US was actually more cost effective.  Red and Pam had one medicine that fell into this category and I went to four places looking for a better deal than their co-pay ($15 for a 90 day supply), but couldn’t find anything close.  I did pick up a couple of other things for them at a significant discount and ended up getting 400 pills of my prescription along with 2 courses of antibiotics for $47.  That may seem like a lot but my prescription runs $34 for 30 pills without my insurance and $3 for 30 pills with insurance, but since the milligrams of the pills I got are double my normal dose I can cut them in half and get 800 days worth.  Ok, now let me be super clear here.  I have no idea of the quality of this medicine, I have no idea if this is a good idea or not.  I am not a medical person, but I do love a bargain and I know that our medicine is very highly priced because of the necessity for the drug companies to recoup their research investments (and earn high profits) so the lower price in a foreign country does not surprise me.   It’s ultimately your call whether or not to try this, but it is something that many people do every day and Ellen who was a pharmaceutical drug rep prior to retirement didn’t bat an eye.

A small portion of wahts was available

A small portion of what was available

After the pharmacy we explored some of the little shops and street vendors and I have to say they are very good at separating you from what’s in your wallet.  Almost everything is cash and whatever you bring you will spend so really think that through.  It was fun shopping though with Mario and Ellen because they bargained in Spanish which brought the prices down.  The best deal I got of the day though was when I simply walked away and the final price was half what I originally quoted.  Just keep thinking “I don’t have to have this” and physically start to walk away and you will be surprised by the results.  Mario got a silver ring from $50 down to $10 that way and even I speaking no Spanish found this effective.

Roger, Brenda, and Mario checking out some street vendor wares

Roger, Brenda, and Mario checking out some street vendors wares

Loved these footballs, but no room in the RV

Loved these footballs, but no room in the RV

Thought these were cute and somewhat unique

Thought these were cute and somewhat unique

One of the best stores had beautiful metal wall hangings. Brenda bought one for their house

One of the best stores had beautiful metal wall hangings. Brenda bought one for their house

I loved the lawn items, but I have no yard :)

I loved the lawn items, but I have no yard 🙂

The courtyards were packed with stuff

The courtyards were packed with stuff

I loved, loved these frogs, but no room in the RV

I was very tempted by these frogs but Lee would have killed me if he had to try to fit these into our limited storage!

Numerous opticians but the general consensus was you could get them cheaper online from China

Numerous opticians but the general consensus was you could get them cheaper online from China

Another main street

Another main street

Although the optical prices were not that impressive, the dental prices were very good.  Roger needs four implants and crowns and was being quoted 10K in the states.  He got a quote in Mexico and the price was $2400 for the same work and we have spoken to numerous people here in Quartzsite who have had work done and said it was fine. Cleanings were $30, although I am sure you could get that price down, and Mario said if you have dentist anxiety they will give you codeine for the cleaning.  I might be able to get Lee to try it after all!  After shopping a bit we stopped for lunch in a large central courtyard that was packed with people.  The servers were pretty overwhelmed and the food was mediocre, but the company was great and I bought a really cool blanket poncho for $20 there.

The lunch courtyard where the live music was very good

The lunch courtyard where the live music was very good

Ellen, Brenda, and Roger

Ellen, Brenda, and Roger before we moved to a bigger table

MArio, Ellen, Brenda, and Roger at a very cool table

Mario, Ellen, Brenda, and Roger

My favorite part of the whole day though was when Ellen spontaneously decided to get a haircut and I joined her.  The woman did a very nice job, knew all the hair related words in English (including cowlick) and the haircut only cost $6!!  That was super fun and I love that Ellen and Mario were nice enough to take me along.  Mario in particular was incredible, keeping an eye on me all day and even insisting on carrying my bags.  He’s definitely a keeper!!

Ellen getting a haircut

Ellen getting a haircut

Me and my buddy Mario

Me and my buddy Mario

It’s also  worth mentioning that we were able to use American dollars at every place we went to. It was a really fun day and the only downside was the 45 minute wait to get back through customs.  It’s hit and miss on how long the line is and we unfortunately caught it on a busy day.  The actual discussion with the customs agent was easy though.  He said what are you declaring and I said two ponchos and some medicine….he immediately passed me through.  Apparently I don’t look like a criminal.  Now that I have done it, I feel confident about going back and I am certain we will go again when Kelly and Bill get here.

Mexico changes a person :)

Mexico changes a person 🙂

 

Lessons Learned

  • Double and triple check to ensure you have your passport before crossing
  • Do not buy anything initially, but gather prices to use for bargaining when you get farther in
  • Prescription medicine can be much cheaper in Mexico, check multiple stores for the best price.
  • Under no circumstances try to smuggle restricted drugs back into the country.  You can face detainment and jail time.
  • When negotiating the price actually start to walk away to get the lowest price. Be prepared to say no and you will be surprised by the deals you can get.
  • If you need extensive dental work done, I would definitely check out the prices in Mexico first
  • Stay on the main street and do not wander to far off the path
  • You can get better Mexican food in the US ironically

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First Week in the RV without Lee

Lee has been working all week, leaving before light and coming home after dark, and for the first extended period I have been alone in the rig.  I say alone which is odd because I am surrounded by friends, but as a self-reliant person I do feel alone.  Everyone has been incredibly nice and have gone above and beyond to help, but it’s just not the same without my best friend to share things with.  I am not lonely exactly, or sad, but it’s just not as fun without him.  That’s strange because over the years we both traveled extensively for work and often left each other for as much as two weeks at a time, but this is different.  Around every corner there are things I want to share with my best friend and it kind of bums me out when I can’t do that.  I am walking away from this experience with a much greater appreciation for what solos do and huge respect for what my husband has quietly taken care of this last year.  While I was working my corporate job last year, Lee took care of all kinds of things and they were largely under the radar.  This week I have emptied and filled tanks (thanks so much Red for the loan of your truck hugely appreciated), done laundry at the laundromat, rolled cigarettes, changed propane tanks, and kept an eye on everything rig related.  There is a lot of work there.  I always thought Lee’s constant need to be busy was personality related, but between the chores and social activities I have been constantly on the go.  As a matter of fact I am writing this at 5am, partly for a strong cell signal, and partly because as soon as the sun comes up it’s hard to squeeze in the time.  Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate the social interactions very much, but I am surprised by how quickly a day is filled up.

And I miss the writing.  I was spending quite a bit of time on posts that I just haven’t had this week.  Which leads me to one other thing I want to talk about before jumping into the pictures.  I have gotten to meet a few readers of my blog this week and one of them said, “You have to be committed to read your blog.”  I always appreciate feedback and this particular comment really stuck with me, so I talked to Kelly and Cori about it and they didn’t disagree.  I know these posts can be a bit dense and certainly they are very long, but truly I am trying to write the blog I wish I could have read before becoming a full timer.  It’s not really a travel log, although there is certainly some of that, but hopefully a resource that people who are considering full timing can use to help them make their decision.  So the detail I provide is with an eye towards someone who knows nothing about Rving or full-timing.  For those who are experienced or really just want to know what we are up to I am sure that can be a bit tedious, but honestly that is my favorite part. There are many wonderful travel blogs out there and many folks who do it way better than me, but I hope that where this blog stands out a little bit is when I write about the emotional aspects of the lifestyle. But I get it, not everyone has 15-20 minutes to devote to one blog post, so I will try to do a better job of having the pictures and their captions tell the travel story as a stand-a-lone.  That way you can always skip the text and just look at the pictures. See what happens when Lee is away, I get all in my head about stuff and oh I am having to edit my own blog posts too this week.  He really deserves big kisses when he comes back.

Jodee and Bill (Founders of the Dreamers Class of 2015) stopped by to say hi

Jodee and Bill (Founders of the Dreamers Class of 2015) stopped by to say hi and brought yummy pastries

With their beautiful dog Tessa. Hobie had a little crush

With their beautiful dog Tessa. Hobie had a little crush

I made homemade dog biscuits (recipe below), with mixed results. Hurley and Hobie liked them, Daisy not so much

I made homemade dog biscuits (recipe below), with mixed results. Hurley and Hobie liked them, Daisy not so much.  It was fun, kind of like making Christmas cookies

Red sponsored a Dreamers Fish Fry and he fed over 26 people wonderful fish

Red sponsored a Dreamers Fish Fry and he fed over 26 people.  Steve made hush puppies

I made onion rings for the first time and it was a ton of fun

I made onion rings for the first time and it was a ton of fun.  Pam was our “runner”

Everyone really had a good tim

Everyone really had a good time

Dreamers..West coast style

Dreamers..Desert style

Hiking to the big Q

Hiking to the big Q

I loved how much plant life there was along the way

I loved how much plant life there was along the way

And an old copper mine

And an old copper mine

Pam and Deb geocahced along the way which gave me plenty of time to take pictures

Pam and Deb geocached along the way which gave me plenty of time to take pictures

They let me find it

They got me close and then let me find it

And I got my first trackable prize, so I can go to its website and log it then take it to another location

And I got my first trackable prize, so I can go to its website and log it then take it to another location

Deb and Pam reading the history and filling out the log

Deb and Pam reading the history and filling out the log

The rail was loose and steep but I did ok

The rail was loose and steep but I did ok

And we made it to the top!

And we made it to the top!

The 360 view was very cool

The 360 view was very cool

So many RV's

So many RV’s

The big tent of the RV show

The big tent of the RV show

The mine from above

The mine from above

A very old height marker which Deb told us we all had to touch as it was tradition

A very old height marker which Deb told us we all had to touch as it was tradition

At the top was this sweet kid Red who was all by himself and playing guitar and singing. Sweet guy

At the top was this sweet kid Red who was all by himself and playing guitar and singing. Sorry about the spots I have got to clean my lens again

I love how life finds a way

I love how life finds a way

Not sure what these are but they are soft and very pretty

Not sure what these are but they are soft and very pretty

Coming down we got a closer view of the big Q. You can climb that way, but I don't recommend it. Go on the back side

Coming down we got a closer view of the big Q. You can climb straight up through it, but I don’t recommend it. Go up on the back side.

Walking back to the truck we had a really hard time finding it. Almost flagged one of these guys down, but thankfully Pam had her handheld GPS and we finally found it

Walking back to the truck we had a really hard time finding it. Almost flagged one of these guys down, but thankfully Pam had her handheld GPS and we finally found it

 

So it’s been packed week and it’s only Thursday!  On Friday I am crossing the border into Mexico with Mario and Ellen, which I have never done before so that should be fun.  I also wanted to leave you with a picture of this very cool thing we keep seeing.  A guy has what looks like a dune buggy with a para-sail and he is flying through the camping area.  He gets really high and it looks like a blast, but way to scary for me.  Neat though.

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Recipes

Doggie Treats 

  • 3 TBL peanut butter
  • 1/2 cup canola oil
  • 2 eggs
  • 3/4 cup of chicken broth (you can substitute water for vegetarian if you want)
  • 2 tsp vanilla
  • 1/2 cup cornmeal
  • 1-1/2 cups unbleached flour
  • 1-1/.2 cup whole wheat flour
  • 1/2 cup rolled oats
  1. Combine peanut butter, oil, eggs, broth, and vanilla in a bowl and whisk very well
  2. Combine dry ingredients in a second bowl and blend
  3. Pour wet ingredients into dry bowl and beat by hand or with a mixture until a dough forms
  4. Roll dough to 1/4″ thickness then cut using dog bone cookie cutters
  5. Place biscuits on greased cookie sheet and cook for 20 minutes
  6. Remove, allow to cool, and store in an airtight bag

I made homemade dog biscuits (recipe below), with mixed results. Hurley and Hobie liked them, Daisy not so much

 

 

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Always Something to do in Quartzsite

When I pictured Quartzsite I always pictured us sort of alone in the desert with lots of free time on our hands.  Well that is absolutely not the case.  My social calendar hasn’t been this full since we spent a month in the Outer Banks and there is always something to do here. So much so that my normal writing schedule is off and this blog is to get me caught up.  So here’s everything that’s been going on.

Pam likes to go to the local QIA (Quartzsite Improvement Association) for the free classes, and I thought I would give it a try.  I tried yoga for the first time(really liked it) and line dancing for the first time, wasn’t a big fan but that’s mainly because my short-term memory is terrible and I have a hard time learning all the steps.  Then Ellen, Deb, and I did some laundry and after a wonderful lunch Mario made we went on a bike ride.  The desert is right outside of town and we rode on a nice bike path a little ways.  While we were out Deb saw a geocache on her phone app and we stopped and they let me find my first one.  It was fun, sort of like a treasure hunt, and I kind of get why people are so into it.  The geocache app has a clue “Unlikely Buddies” in this case and GPS coordinates that get you within 50 feet.  The treasures cannot be buried or hidden so high you will need to climb and I did feel some excitement when we uncovered it.  The “prize” was a simple pencil eraser (Ellen replaced it with a quarter), but really the fun was in finding the treasure.

Deb and Ellen on a random bench along the bike path

Deb and Ellen on a random bench along the bike path

I love the huge cacti

I love the huge cacti

We found this mound of rocks in the desert no clue what it's for

We found this mound of rocks in the desert no clue what it’s for

It had the number 98 on it??

It had the number 98 on it??

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The unlikely buddies were a cacti and a tree intertwined

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The geocache was in the hollow of the tree in a long film canister

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My butterfly

After the experience I definitely want Lee to download the app and as Steve says it is a great way to get people out walking.  Neither Steve nor I are that fond of walking for the sake of walking, but having a goal in mind certainly makes it a lot more fun.  After the geocache we headed back towards town and Ellen found us the 1,000 year old Iron Tree.  I loved old trees and this was along a really cool path and had a nice sign underneath it explaining about the tree.  We also stopped into the combination Town Hall/Library/Government offices.  I really like libraries and this one was very nice plus as soon as you walk in the front doors you see the town meeting area.  Talk about transparency in government.  No doors or separate rooms it’s all right out in the open…I totally approve.  The government area was landscaped nicely making the most use of the plants that will grow in this area and was neat as a pin.  Again very nice.

The Great tree

The Great tree

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The town is famous because of the military tried to import camels here

The town is famous because of the military tried to import camels here

The town hall directly in front of the main doors

The town hall directly in front of the main doors

Library, pretty big for such a small town and lots of books on local geography and wildlife

Library, pretty big for such a small town and lots of books on local geography and wildlife

These were the government offices. Get your license and walk across to pay your utilitiies

These were the government offices. Get your license and walk across to pay your utilities

Then Cori and Greg, fellow 2014ers, finally arrived.  They drove up from Texas and ended up getting in early so Deb and I drove up to the front to escort them back. We paid Pam and Red’s kindness forward, by helping Cori and Greg get acclimated.  Greg owns RV Solar Solutions so we knew he would be fine on generating power, but there was still the trash and tank management to talk about.  They are in a really nice Class A that has macerating toilets, but they also use a pre-specified amount of water to flush, so black tank management is always a challenge for them.  One of the benefits of a Class A though is you can always just drive over to the dump station, so we will see how that all plays out for them as the weeks go on.  We were all really excited to see them, because even though Cori and I chat/text at least every other day I hadn’t physically seen them in a year and thankfully they arrived on Lee’s one day off this week so we all got to have a campfire and hang out together.  Then we went over to the Xcapers happy hour and got to meet Chris and Cherie from Technomadia and Travis and Melanie who have founded Xscapers.  I have been wanting to meet Chris and Cherie since we started full-timing and they were of course very nice.  I was happy to have an opportunity to thank her for her words of wisdom in the forum and on her blog and the fact that they have been an inspiration to us in becoming full timers.  Travis and Melanie were really great.  They have a 4-year-old and Melanie is pregnant with their second child and they work full-time for the Escapees organization.  They have started a sub group for those of us who are mobile workers and are working very hard to provide resources for those folks who are working on the road.  I am very excited about this because we really need resources for us working RVers and since Escapees is such a huge RVing community they should have the resources to really get things started.  Lee and I spoke to them for about 15 minutes and I was very impressed by their vision, plus they are just cool people to hang out with.  Can’t wait to see what they come up with this year. 

Steve, Deb, Cori, and Greg

Steve, Deb, Cori, and Greg.  Jim and Barb were there to but not pictured.

Lee’s schedule is pretty rough (leaving at 5am and getting home around 10pm every night) and in retrospect we really should have moved the rig to be closer to Phoenix, but I am grateful for the opportunity to do this on my own for a week.  So far it’s been fine.  I don’t know what to do with all that extra space all by myself and I am enjoying some alone time in my rig to be honest.  Everyone’s keeping an eye on me, which is sweet, but really I totally feel like I have this and the schedule is keeping me so busy I don’t even have the time to get lonely.  Steve really wanted to go to the RV Show on Saturday and even though the repeaters said it would be a mad house off we went after Steve cooked us a nice big breakfast.  It was super crowded, but not that bad as we had been told and with our BLM stickers we could park on the BLM land right next to the show. I will say I was a little disappointed in the content of the show itself, but after all the hype I am not sure anything could have lived up to my expectations.  There were a few cool things I had never seen before.  The best part for me was the Beet Harvest booth and Amazon booth because we are thinking about trying both of these to earn money in the future and it was nice to be able to talk face-to-face with a person about the positions.

The entrance to the show

The entrance to the show

Walking behind Steve helped clear a path lol

Walking behind Steve helped clear a path lol

I bought one of these for Lee

I bought one of these for Lee.  For $5 I am sure he will figure something out to do with them

We all admired the hot tubs but not very practical

We all admired the hot tubs but not very practical

Deb got some face cleanser put on

Deb got some face moisturizer put on, but she has amazing skin so doesn’t really need anything in my opinion

Nice gold cart display

Nice gold cart display

These wine glass separators are a big hit in the rC world

These wine glass separators are a big hit in the RV world

Steve bought a Flagpole buddy and we both bought these solar lights for the top which was my splurge for the show

Steve bought a Flagpole buddy and we both bought these solar lights for the top which was my splurge for the show.  We got a better deal since Steve bought a flagpole and we met the owner of Flagpole buddy who was very nice.

By two o’clock we had gone through the Big Tent and I was ready to go.  It really started to get crowded and I was tired of walking. Plus Steve promised to get me back in time for the Patriots playoff game and we all gathered at Cori and Greg’s with snacks to watch the game on their big screen TV.  The Patriots won and Lee got home a little early that night so we all sat around the campfire and chatted until about 9:30.

Deb, Barb, and Jim watching the game

Deb, Barb, and Jim watching the game

Greg and Cori

Greg and Cori

Beautiful sunset that night

Beautiful sunset that night

On Sunday, we decided to go to the  Desert Bar.  This bar is out in the middle of no where, 6 miles down a very rocky road off the highway past Parker.  You can’t go to Quartzsite though and not go at least once so Deb, Steve, Cori, Greg, and I all went.  The story is that in 1983, Ken the owner bought an old copper mine and decided to give a bar in the desert a try.  It has since grown and expanded and the place was busy when we got there at noon and even busier when we left.   We took some pictures, ate a decent but expensive lunch, and listened to the band.  It’s not something I would do regularly, but it is a very neat concept and truly is in the middle of no where. Also it’s a cash only place so bring extra, because you’ll probably want to get a T-Shirt.

The Desert bar sign

The Desert bar sign.  You really need directions because it is not easy to find

It's all solar powered and only open on the weekends when the sun is up

It’s all solar-powered and only open on the weekends when the sun is up

They built a church front and anyone can minister there

They built a church front and anyone can minister there

The side view

The side view

Cool metal sculptures

Cool metal sculptures

One of four food area. I had a $10 gyro which was good and a $5 big glass of lemonade. Pricey but filling

One of four food area. I had a $10 gyro which was good and a $5 big glass of lemonade. Pricey but filling

 

One of the things everyone talks about is the women’s restroom.  It is extremely clean, built into the side of the hill and has an open air view at the sinks onto the mountains.  Not sure how they get all that water but it was cold and honestly one of the neatest bathrooms I have ever been in.  The men’s room I guess is not so cool.

Entrance to the ladies room

Entrance to the ladies room

The wall behind the stalls was packed dirt which was cooler than the picture suggests. The dorrs are heavy iron.

The wall behind the stalls was packed dirt which was cooler than the picture suggests. The doors are metal sheets.

I loved the sinks and they looked out over the desert

I loved the sinks and they looked out over the desert

 

We snagged one of the last tables, ate some lunch, and then Deb wanted to hike up on this little hill to get a better view.  The gravel/rock is very loose, but Cori (who sprained her ankle on a hike a few weeks ago) wanted to give it a go.  So Deb, Steve, Cori, and I hiked up while Greg watched the table and our stuff.  The panoramic was very pretty and you got a good view of the owner’s house which is on the property.  It’s such an odd place to put a bar, in such an isolated place, but you can’t argue with success because the place got busier and busier as the afternoon wore on.

Greg and Steve moving our spool table

Greg and Steve moving our spool table

Deb leading the way on our small walk up

Deb leading the way on our small walk up

We made it!!

We made it!!

The original bar

The original bar

Today's compound

Today’s compound

The road coming in

The road coming in.  Takes forever to go 6 miles

Steve striking a pose for me

Steve striking a pose for me

A man and his Coors!!

A man and his Coors!!

After the short hike we talked a bit more than I bought a long-sleeve T-Shirt for $26 and left.  They had a nice selection of shirts and I really wanted something to prove I had been there.  Plus I had exactly $26 left in my purse so it was meant to be.  One the way out we saw some folks dancing and they were having a great time, but we were all ready to go.  We stopped at Wal-Mart in Parker, which is very nice, and picked up a few things then got back to the rig by 4pm.  We were all pretty pooped at that point, so I uploaded pictures, watched the end of the Broncos game and went to Cori and Greg’s for steak dinner which was very sweet of them.  Tomorrow going back to the show with Cori and Greg and then another busy week up ahead.  Several RV-Dreams are stopping by this week and I will definitely need to do another round of tank emptying and refilling, plus I promised Deb some hikes and I really want to take more pictures.  Whew this being a lady of leisure is exhausting!!!

Loved the old trucks in the surronding area

Loved the old trucks in the surrounding area

Had to get my picture taken in this one

Had to get my picture taken in this one

Steve and Greg peer pressured me into licking the truck

Steve and Greg peer pressured me into licking the truck

My sexy car modeling lol

My sexy car modeling lol

 

Beautiful views

Beautiful views

 

 

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First Time (for Tracy) Dealing with the Black/Grey/Fresh Tanks

Although the RV tech work for Lee has largely been a non-starter so far, luckily Lee had booked some free lance camera jobs in Phoenix with a company he used to work for many years ago.  One of his best friends still works there, and when his friend found out he was going to be in the area they hired him as a freelancer to work on some of their live business events.  Lee was pretty excited, because he hadn’t had the opportunity to work with the company in 15 years, but a little nervous because he was 15 years older.  We talked about moving the rig closer to Phoenix, but since these would be long days I really wanted to stay in Quartzsite with our friends.  So Lee agreed to make the 2 hour drive each way on the days he worked, but we had to figure out what to do about the tanks.  He is working Tues, Thurs, and then Sat-Fri and no way would he be able to take care of the tanks also.  He gently broached the subject with me and I immediately said it was time for me to learn.  Yes, I will still need to borrow a vehicle to transport the portable tanks, but I wanted to be as self sufficient as possible.  Plus there are three big things I still cannot do that make me nervous about my ability to be self reliant if something happened to Lee.  Hitching/Unhitching comfortably, driving on a 6% grade, and tank management are the big three and after a year on the road I am pretty embarrassed that I cannot do these things yet.  So his work opportunity was also a blessing in disguise because it forced the issue.  Sometimes in life you just have to put your big girl pants on and do the tough thing.

Thankfully Lee is a wonderful teacher.  He has a soothing, calm voice and is very patient.  The hardest part was stopping himself from taking over when I struggled, but he got into the spirit of it and started saying, “Hey, I am in a coma remember, you can do this by yourself.”  At a couple of points I really was starting to resent that fictional coma!!  I am going to walk you through the steps as he taught me, but keep in mind everyone’s system is a little different and this has way more steps because there are no hookups here.  In general though the actions are the same for everyone and if I can do this anyone can, because trust me I am NOT mechanically inclined. 

The first thing we did was drive to empty the Blue BoyOne of the nice things about a Blue Boy is you can fill it and the gray water can stay inside until you have time to empty it at a dump station, assuming you aren’t pulling it behind your truck. They have wheels, and are designed to be pulled like a tiny little trailer, but some people, like us, keep it in the bed of the pickup so pulling it around on those little wheels doesn’t ruin it. Obviously when it has liquid in it you can’t lift it. Ours is 35 gallons, and water weighs about 8 pounds per gallon, so when it’s full, it’s a hefty 300 lbs. Emptying an already full Blue Boy was a nice way to start actually because it only involved a couple of steps.  I got myself a pair of blue rubber gloves, jumped into the driver seat and off we went.  La Posa has two dump areas, one for the rigs and another smaller one for Blue Boys only.  Since the stations with rigs were very full, we went closer to the entrance and used the Blue Boy dump station. I actually wanted to use that one because it is all by itself and I thought I wouldn’t have an audience.  Unfortunately, one of the camp hosts was stationed there (probably to ensure rigs didn’t use it) and couldn’t refrain from commenting as we went along.  When I said I needed to learn I hoped he would back off, but he watched every move and even said “I am enjoying this,” at one point.  OK, side rant here.  Not cool.  I don’t care if you are a girl or a guy, when you are doing something for the first time it is tough and shame on people who stand around and watch, or worse, pass judgement.  It actually stiffened my resolve though.  No better way to motivate me than to tell me I can’t do something and I pulled down the tailgate and started.  Lee talked me through it step-by-step and the hardest part for me was connecting the sewer hose to the Blue Boy hose. It’s completely manual and involves turning a plastic piece and “latching” it with another, and obviously you want this to be tight so it doesn’t leak.  I almost gave up, I really did, and the guy looking on didn’t help, but finally I put the hose between my legs for leverage and twisted and it locked in.  Then I did the easy part which was to put the connector into the hole (I held my breath first so I wouldn’t get a full whiff of waste) and then opened the vent hole on the blue boy, which allows air in so the vacuum of draining liquid doesn’t collapse the tank, and then opened the waste valve unlatching it so it lays flat in the truck.   Hooray the water started to come out. 

We added a step stool into our truck which helps make it easy to get in and out

We added a step stool into our truck which helps make it easy to get in and out

Me twisting the cap on

Me twisting the cap on

Happy the water was coming out

Happy the water was coming out

Unfortunately the good feeling didn’t last long, because the self-appointed tank watcher said, “It will drain faster if you tilt the blue boy up.”  So I jumped into the truck and of course when I tried to lift it it was still too heavy.  I lifted the hose a tiny bit, being careful not to pull out the end that was in the ground, and it went a little faster and then I tried again.  when it was about a third full I could lift it and indeed it did go faster.  By the way, all of the liquid does not come out but you can get most of it that way.  The I screwed the cap back on the vent hole, shut the waste valve and relatched it in the upright position, and pulled the hose back into the truck.  Feeling pretty happy that I made it through the first step we headed back to the RV fill it up with black water.

To be perfectly clear, Lee would have just as soon skipped the black tank, but I was adamant.  We can go two weeks without emptying our black tank, and Lee prefers not to use the Blue Boy for black water if it can be avoided, but If I was doing this, I was all in, and really there isn’t that much difference.  We have a macerator pump which turns the poop into what we affectionately call a poop milkshake (think garbage disposal).  So really the only difference between the gray and the black tank is the smell and the mental fact that if it gets on your hands it’s poop.  Technically there was no difference between the two and I just decided that one was the same as another.  When we got back to the truck I disconnected the hose (again needing to put it between my legs and twist several times to get it loose) and then unclamped the garden hose from the rig.  Lee hangs the dumping hose , with a clamp, facing up on the wire on our slide out so that the waste water remaining in the hose does not run out on the ground.  If you are going straight into full hookups this is not necessary, but since we had to pump the milkshake into the blue boy there would be some remaining in the hose.  I unclamped it and held it up as instructed and then climbed back into the truck.  Taking the very top of the hose I screwed it onto the valve on the blue boy.  There was nothing in the end I used so no mess other than a few drops of water. I opened the waste valve on our tanks and no leaks.  Next I took the extension cord Lee made with tiny power clips and hooked them to the truck battery.  Lee’s ultimate goal is to hard wire power directly from the RV but for now this is an acceptable way to get power to the pump.  It works just like jump starting a battery.  Place the black clip on negative and the red clip on positive…in that order.  I then opened the vent hole in the blue boy again.  The air in the blue boy has to go somewhere when it starts to fill up so this was an important step.

Attaching the hose to the valve

Attaching the hose to the valve

The valve connected

The valve connected

All hooked up

All hooked up

Ready to turn the pump on I looked at Lee.  He shook his head and I walked through the steps.  Duh, I forgot to open the waste valve on the blue boy so I would be pumping the water into a dead end at the valve..not good with a poop milkshake.  I open the waste valve on the blue bloy and started the pump with a red button controller.  I asked Lee how I would know when the blue boy was full and he said that when the little red ball on the vent hole popped up you have about 10 seconds to shut off the pump before over flow.  Yikes!!  He is comfortable enough at this point to wander around, but I stood right at the disconnect switch never taking my eyes off the small vent hole.  Suddenly the pump started to make a different noise and I looked up in panic.  Lee had me look at the clear connector we have on the hose and saw hardly any water was running through, because the black tank wasn’t even close to half full.  Many people won’t do clear connectors because they think it’s gross but we have them on both ends of the hose.  How else can you see what’s going on?? I stopped the pump, closed the black tank and then opened the gray.  Water started coming in and I once again used the red button to turn on the pump.  A little while later the red button popped up and I quickly turned off the pump.  Next I stood in the bed and lifted the hose to eye level so what was in that end drained out.  I then unscrewed the hose, again with just a little coming out and quickly held it pointed up.  Back on the clamp it went and voila, one full blue boy.  I shut the waste valve on blue boy but first upon my request I got a piece of tape and wrote Open Valve to Fill on it.  I knew that might be a step I would forget again and this note will help me remember.  Then I screwed on the vent hole cap and back we went to the dump.  

The macerator pump

The macerator pump

The pump connected to our power

The pump connected to our power

The pump start/stop button

The pump start/stop button

We have electric valve switches that Lee had installed. Makes it super easy

We have electric valve switches that Lee had installed. Makes it super easy

Out clear connector and waste valve at the tank. Yes it's gross but you can see what's happening

Our clear connector and waste valve at the tank. Yes, it’s gross but you can see what’s happening

The blow hole

The vent hole.  The red ball pops up when its close to full.

My reminder note

My reminder note.  Lee said it’s open to empty also but that is what I need to remember.

Thankfully when we went back to the dump, the camp host had wandered off, but this time half way through there was an older gentleman waiting in line.  He seemed somewhat offended by the fact that Lee was just standing there with his hands in his pockets while the “little woman” did all the work, but thankfully he was mostly silent.  This time it went better but I was definitely more cautious when I was trying to get the hose latched.  Finally after some finagling it clicked into place but it was still pretty tough.  I followed the same steps as before for the grey tank and stayed up-wind.  The one extra step I added was to take a fresh water hose they had nearby and run water into the hose when it was done.  Then back we went for round three.  The third go round was easier and we emptied the gray tank completely dry.  We probably could have skipped this last trip, since the blue boy was not completely full, but you always want to “rinse” with gray after running black and a blue boy is no different.  I was starting to get the hang of the latching though and it was much easier the third time.  Wow, I was pooped, but felt really proud of myself and Lee took the picture to prove it.

Victorious!!!!

Victorious!!!!

 

After the tanks we took a little break and started on fresh water.  There are numerous options for containers and we haven’t really found the perfect solution, so we borrowed Red and Jim’s hard plastic tank and also brought our collapsible rainwater container.  After strapping them down we drove up to the freshwater station.  Most people here will not drink the water, but I will say I drank some from the hose and it tasted fine.  Speaking of hose you should not use regular garden hose for this but pony up the money for a separate drinking water hose.  We attached one end on the spigot and the other end to the attachment on the barrel.  Next you open the hole to once again equalize pressure and turn it on.  Easy peasy.  It does take quite awhile to fill the barrels (think kids plastic swimming pool time) and you need to stand and watch it, but it was pretty easy.  We drove back to the rig and it got a bit more complicated.  We had to buy a totally separate water pump (without the macerator) for fresh water and once again we powered it up to the engine.  You stick one end of the white drinking hose into your rig and the other end into the barrel.  Turn the pump on and wait.  Our pump only does 3.5 gallons per minute and since we have a 81 gallon fresh water tank this can take awhile.  You also need to keep an eye on the barrel and when the water gets low tip it up to get as much out as possible.  Plus the only way on our rig that we know the fresh water is full is when the water starts to run out of the bottom.  Not the best warning system, but compared to the grey and black this was a snap.  After the fresh was filled up, Lee took the remainder over to Steve and Deb.  It’s a nice gesture to give your excess to a close neighbor and we were paying forward the kindness that Red and Jim did for us earlier.

Hose connected to the rig

Hose connected to the rig

We have to turn the red, blue, black areas at the top to fill

We have to turn the red, blue, black areas at the top to fill

Fresh water pump

Fresh water pump

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The white barrels are sold at the local hardware store

Hose connected to solid barrel

Hose connected to solid barrel

Connector on our collapsible barrel

Connector on our collapsible barrel

Another little break and  Lee taught me how to take our propane tanks off.  I know how to go get them filled, but had never taken them off and I wont go into the details since they are all so different, but again pretty easy just make sure you shut the tanks before you take them off.  So now I can deal with having full tanks, empty water, and low propane all by myself.  I do feel very confident that I won’t forget how, but just like driving need to continue doing it occasionally to stay in practice.  Lee will have the truck, but our friends have all volunteered their vehicles when I need them and I am super happy that I can do this by myself.  This was a very big deal for me and feels fantastic, so if you are putting off learning this because it’s scary…I totally get it, but feels really nice on the other side!!

Another beautiful desert sunset

Another beautiful desert sunset

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Trying to Settle in at Quartzsite

Where to begin?  Well first off I should say, we are newbies here and all of the following are our experiences and impressions, YMMV.  I have no doubt with more time under my belt, I will know more, but wanted to capture these thoughts while they are fresh.

After the initial flurry of welcomes, you start to get settled in.  One nice thing is people give you plenty of room to do just that.  We have started a little RV-Dreams enclave over here, but we are also trying to not sit on top of each other.  I do see these little groups though all over the place and they are so close they are almost touching.  Not sure what that is all about.  I get the desire to be close for comfort, but it’s a big huge area and for us kind of the whole point is to not be on top of one another like at some campgrounds.  Still, to each his own, and for all I know there is a reason people group together so closely.  People are starting to trickle in though and I am glad I built my rock “front yard”.  Folks so far have respected that boundary and it has given us some space in front of us. I feel bad for this guy in a little trailer sort of next door who has been here since October, he started out all by himself and now is slowly being surrounded.  We tried to maintain some distance, but a small group of Class A’s parked practically on his doorstep.  I think part of the problem is people don’t realize how far back the land goes. (We are about one mile in on the main LTVA artery, and it goes at least another 3 miles or more.) They see other folks camping, and say “here’s a good place to stop”.  Plus, the closer you are to the front, the closer you are to the trash, dump station, water, and restrooms.  Personally, I like the spots in the back closer to the mountains, but I hear those can be much dustier since they are closer to the ATV trails.  We are sort of in the middle and as first timers it was great to have someone pick the spot for us.

The main "road driving in

The main “road” driving in.  You can see why people get confused on where to park.  Technically you can park anywhere but the main road but then you might block someone in.

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Dump Station. Lee said it was fine, as those things go.

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Trash dumpsters which they empty pretty regularly

I am thrilled that they have these things available and am a big fan of La Posa South because of that.  You can stay in more remote areas for the same price and drive here to use these facilities,  but as “first timers” it is nice having them on the same property. And of course you can’t beat the price of $40 for two weeks, or $180 for 8 months. Despite our best efforts we generate a lot of trash and our plan to separate and burn the paper products has not been possible because it has just been too windy. Although many folks only shower every other day, we both take short showers daily and so we use more water.  Draining the water is not a big deal though for us, because Lee doesn’t mind using the Blue Boy to empty the grey tank (black tank is another story). I have tried to cut down on water for washing dishes by using the Dawn Foam Pump .  You put the foam directly on the sponge and then only really need water to rinse.  Plus it gets the dishes extremely clean, which is very important to Lee.  The only other water issue we have is for drinking water. The water is potable (I brush my teeth with it), but so far I am using bottled water to drink. At $1 for a huge bottle of water it’s more of an inconvenience than a monetary consideration at this point, but I will try filling the jugs up directly at the pump at some point.  We don’t have filters because water has been great everywhere that we have stayed, but we will re-evaluate if that changes.  Filling up the water has been interesting. We carry 250 feet of fresh water hose and in every campground where we didn’t have water at the site, this was enough to run hose to the nearest water spigot.  Obviously that isn’t possible here, so Lee bought a 50 gallon collapsible rain barrel.  The hardware store here sells hard plastic 50 gallon water barrels with fittings, for $50,  which many people invest in for transporting water and then leave behind, but we wanted something we could take with us.  Unfortunately, the collapsible version is top heavy when filled and as soon as Lee started to move the truck the collapsible barrel tipped over and about a third spilled out.  Our friends Red and Jim have co-invested in the hard barrels and Lee thinks he will chip in and just borrow those as needed since it seems easier.  

Power is the other big resource and is especially important when you need computers for work.  We have a wonderful solar setup (thanks to RV Solar Solutions) and on sunny days we are generating more power than we are using, so not only are we able to run the computer all day, we are also charging our batteries for using the computer and TV after dark. Of course it can’t keep up on cloudy days though and we have had an abnormally large amount of those.  When it’s cloudy it’s also colder, and the combination of extra heat and power generation with the propane generator costs about $10 a day when it is severely cold and rainy.   Thankfully we have started to experience more sunny days and the $10 days have been minimal.  The good news here though is propane is selling at $1.99 a gallon, which is the lowest we have seen so far on the road.  We have paid upwards of $3.29 a gallon in certain places, so we are certainly not complaining about the price.  I just hate the extra money, even though rationally I know $10 a day for a campsite is still an excellent deal, but if it was going to be cold and rainy for an extended period of time, I would just as soon be on full hookups.

The other issue is the heat.  It has been cold here in comparison to Florida and I draw the line at being low on resources and cold.  So we do run the heat at night for our regular furnace set at 67.  The thermostat is in the warmest part of the house, so 67 equals 63 in the living room and about 65 in the bedroom.  We gave away our big comforter last summer because it was taking up a ton of space and seeing little use so we have an electric blanket (which we have enough power to turn on briefly to warm the bed before going to sleep), a thin comforter and our throw blankets.  Lee and I are also both wearing flannel pajamas and there definitely is more cuddling for warmth.  Even though we brought a trucks worth of wood with us, because of the unseasonable cold additional wood at a reasonable price is hard to find, so we can’t really use fires in the mornings and every evening to provide warmth. Many of the more experienced boondockers are using small propane heaters (which are more efficient) to heat rooms, but they make me nervous.  I may change my mind about that if the propane bills start racking up, but for right now this is working for us.

 I think the big misconception about boondocking is you have no services at all, which freaks many people out.  Water, power, heat are all available, but you need to invest in infrastructure,  change some patterns of behavior, and do a little extra work.  Most importantly in my mind, is you can have limits and let’s not forget our homes are on wheels.  If things get really bad, we can always pick up and move.  That’s sort of the whole point.  Oh, and its not a competition.  When our friends Deb and Steve said they went 5 weeks without emptying the black tank I was simultaneously very proud of them and ashamed of myself because, why couldn’t I go 5 weeks?  Well, their black tank is bigger,  they employ tank savings techniques I am not willing to do at this time, and who knows, maybe they poop less!  Seriously, everyone is different and it is totally fine to have individual limits when boondocking just like anywhere else.  Not much different than any other campground.  Some people can’t tolerate barking dogs or lots of kids, others couldn’t care less.  Some have to have wide spaces for satellite signal others like heavily forested campsites. The variation is infinite and finding ways to live in Quartzsite is no different. 

Aside from settling into boon docking and watching resource use there is also the social aspect of Quartzsite.  Despite the large groups of campers this has a totally different vibe than a rally or most campgrounds.  Unlike a rally where one group gets together, there are numerous RV groups here and people tend to float between the groups, often moving their rig to spend some time with one group and then moving onto another.  If you don’t want to physically move, almost everyone does happy hours and encourages folks to come and meet.  RVillage  has been a great tool for setting up group meetings as it has the ability to setup an electronic “get together” and then invite folks who can in turn RSVP.  The abundance of ways to communicate though might actually be a disadvantage.  Folks are communicating via text, Facebook Messenger, RVillage, Forums, and email.  Unfortunately not everyone uses every type of communication so there doesn’t seem to be an easy way to let everyone know if something is happening.  The safest thing to do actually is walk around and knock on people’s campers and let them know, but then when folks are out they don’t get invited.  Don’t get me wrong these get togethers are pretty casual, but you hate to think you might be inadvertently leaving people out.  Plus the inefficiency of it drives me crazy 🙂 So I am still trying to figure out the “rules” and don’t kid yourself there are rules.  We may be all living in glorified trailers in the middle of the desert, but since the dawn of time when a group of people gathered for anything social norms start to form.  If you don’t want to worry about all that, you can find a quiet peace of BLM land away from everyone and totally do your own thing, but you really would be missing out on a huge piece of what makes Quartzsite what it is.  The opportunity for like minded people to gather, share information, and talk to other who really get what the full timing lifestyle is about. 

Campfire at our place one night

Campfire at our place one night.  That is Steve and Diane’s big truck in the background.  No we have not upgraded although I am jealous!!

Hurley, Steve and Deb's dog playing fetch with a log of wood. All the puppies everywhere makes me happy

Hurley, Steve and Deb’s dog playing fetch with a log of wood. All the puppies everywhere makes me happy.

 In the daytime folks seem to largely do their own thing.  Some have ATV’s (tons of trails here), some like to hike, site-see, or just hang out and relax.  Quartzsite itself, for such a small town, has things to do as well.  There is a community center and the Quartzsite Improvement Association both of which have free classes throughout the week.  I went to a Yoga class with Pam and some of us are doing a line dancing class this week and it’s a great way to get away from the rig for awhile. The classes are not available the 10 days of the big show though as they are using the buildings for other things, another great reason to come and stay here in the weeks surrounding the show.  At night you can always see folks out watching the sunset.  It’s different every night and the colors are very pretty against the mountains.

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And of course there is the big show itself, although this is also a little confusing.  There are multiple shows running through January and February.  Currently there is a rock/mineral show, then the RV show, then a swap show and finally an arts and craft show.  Plus there are vendors here in tents kind of everywhere.  We went over to the rock and mineral show and it was ok.  Not much RV stuff and you really have to be careful on prices.  It had a funky vibe too with all kinds of people mingling together and I wasn’t that crazy about it.  Maybe I’ve lost my joy of aimless shopping since we don’t need much and are trying to watch our money, but it wasn’t that fun.  I am hoping that the big RV show is better because those vendors target our demographic.  This week’s been all about getting acclimated, Lee having the flu which was not fun, and my working on my new website page abut ways to generate revenue on the road.   Hopefully this week will involve better weather and getting out more to see some nature.   And finally in case you were wondering I don’t miss my job at all.   There are aspects of the work itself that I miss occasionally, but I am completely surprised by how quickly I adjusted.  Now I say that when the buy-out checks are still coming in until March.  The big test will be how I feel when the checks stop rolling in, but for now I am really enjoying myself!!  And here’s some random pictures I took this week that I just had to share.  This is a quirky place and it’s only fair to represent that as well. 

We put our flag up on the flagpole buddy. I really like it

We put our flag up on the flagpole buddy. I really like it.  Interesting that this is the first place we’ve been where I wanted a flag.

UPS hours in Blythe...I have to mail that garlic keeper to my dad and neededless to say we did not stop by between 9 and 10

UPS hours in Blythe…I have to mail that garlic keeper to my dad and needless to say it was not  between 9 and 10 when we stopped by

The sign says it all

The sign says it all

I sent Lee out to lay in the sun when he was sick on one really nice day

I sent Lee out to lay in the sun when he was sick on one really nice day

Never seen this before they were selling raw materials for people to carve walking sticks

Never seen this before they were selling raw materials for people to carve walking sticks

At the flea market

At the flea market “free midget pants”

Prepper convoy at the grocery store

Prepper convoy at the grocery store.  the Smart and Final is 30 minutes away and the Walmart is 40 minutes.

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First Year Budget Summary – 2015

Well, here we are at the end of 2015 with our very first annual financial summary.  Although we did some research when we started, many of our budget categories were wild guesses and I was so pleased by how many were at least close to our projected numbers.  I can’t stress enough that the costs in Year One will probably be higher than in subsequent years, but it is also fair to say that we were trying to be careful with our money.  Our operating costs were $49,409.98 and many of our friends who were out the first year were also spending about $4K a month.  (This summary does not include all of the one-time expenditures, for more information on that please see the First Year By the Numbers post.)  Let’s put that into context; we were living on more than twice as much when we were in a sticks and bricks, and more importantly, as soon as money came in it went right back out again.  What matter the most to me is that we landed only $2,590 over our estimated budget for the year, which is awesome, and frankly somewhat miraculous.  The great thing about Year 1 for us was I still had my corporate job so that gave us tons of breathing room.  Year 2 will be much leaner as we rely on the income we can make on the road.  Our stance next year will be putting money in and taking money out of our $30,000 in savings.  If we spend down to $10K we will have to stop and get serious about making money for awhile, but it feels great knowing we have easy access to 6 months worth of costs. This lifestyle for us is an adventure and many other wonderful things, but it is also an experiment.  Can two people with good health and good skills make enough money on the road to cover their costs AND continue to live a life full of enrichment?  Next year will be the real test without a guaranteed source of income, but I feel so much better about the probability of our success after seeing these numbers.  So let’s dive in!

2015 Budget Summary

Campground Fees – We budgeted $750 a month and only averaged $434 a month!!! What a great story, and largely due to work kamping, staying in state and county parks, and using our discount memberships.  And for the record, we only had one Walmart stay and one Cracker Barrel stay in the entire year.  I am going to reduce these costs in the FY16 budget, you can see the detail below.

Groceries – We budgeted $600 a month and ended up spending $701 a month. Anyone who reads the blog knows how we have struggled with groceries.  Small, pricey rural grocery stores along with  inadequate meal planning and eating joint meals with friends led to higher than expected costs.  We have taken several major steps including meal planning and reduction of waste to help keep these costs down.  We are also going to track this category in more detail in Year 2 separating food from non-food items and adding alcohol as a separate category as well.  So I will be keeping the overall budget at $600 a month just splitting the money between the three categories.  I will say though that we ate well and Lee lost 15 pounds this year.  I have rediscovered my love of cooking and now we eat mainly fresh and local foods.  Yes, we could eat cheaper tomorrow if I was willing to give up those fresh ingredients and meals with friends, but I am not. Let’s see if we can eat well and stay in budget in Year 2. As a side note Ellen asked what we spent in a sticks and bricks.  That was about $800 a month or more so this is definitely progress.

Dining Out – We thought this category would be our biggest challenge and it was. Our budget is $150 a month and we spent $247 a month. Early on we started looking at eating out in two ways.  Fuel (when we just need to eat) and experience (want to try the local cuisine, or go out with other people).  Later in the year we tried, mostly unsuccessfully, to pack more lunches or to schedule our sight-seeing around meal times.  This had some effect, but those only seeing things before noon or between noon and 6 is hard to do, especially since we like to take long day trips.  Since most of the year we were packing everything in on the weekends, I am hoping this gets a little better. I will say this is WAY lower than it was in the sticks and bricks.  We were spending hundreds a month in this category so it’s a major improvement.  We have done an excellent job of not just picking up the check for everyone and that was really hard for Lee, but split checks is now the norm.  We had a major struggle with drinking water instead of soda (at an extra $2.50) per meal and we are doing much better on that. Also, you see major spikes when we are around our family. On the positive side we did a great job when hanging with friends and although that hit us a little harder on the grocery side we definitely saved money overall.   I am not changing the budget amount on this one.  We simply have to do better.

Truck/Relocation Fuel – I am absolutely thrilled at this category because we ended up $500 to the good in aggregate. Unfortunately for the 2016 budget I had a company car with free fuel for the first 9 months and I am already seeing these costs rise.  Our “hub and spoke” approach to traveling keeps our relocation costs down but adds to our “local” fuel expense.  I am leery about using the numbers from the last three months only to set next years budget, but I am also aware we are traveling up to Alaska from Tennessee in May which will be a big fuel hit.  But, we will be staying in one place from Mid May to Mid September, so hopefully it will balance out. Plus the cost of diesel has been very low most of the year and we can’t necessarily expect that to continue in 2016.  So I think I am going to combine the categories into one Fuel cost and raise them a little.  Unfortunately it’s going to take at least another year’s worth of data before I feel comfortable with what these costs will be.

Entertainment – Absolute home run, spending $375 less than our budget. We did really well in this category by focusing on free or near free activities. See my Things to Do under $10 page for more details.  Occasionally we splurged but mainly we consistently stayed in the budget in this category.  I am not going to change the amount for 2016, but I hope to see further savings in 2016.  Truly, its all about the nature to keep this category low, but since we also like to experience other activities we sprinkle those in to keep it fun.  One of the keys is to remember you can go back and you don’t have to do absolutely everything in an area. 

Storage Unit – We kept a 10×10 for a few of our things and our two daughters.  Starting in March we will be splitting the cost three ways with our daughters (every little bit helps) and then our plan was to get to New Hampshire to empty our piece and take it to my mother-in-law’s basement.  I also need to get a physical so I originally thought I would do all that at once, but with Alaska I’m not sure what we will be doing there.  In any event, I don’t regret this in the slightest.  $840 was a small price to pay for not having to purge everything all at once and I am fine with letting it sit until I can deal with it.

Cell Phones/Internet/TV – To many this budget amount is ridiculously high and there is some fairness to that.  We took advantage of an ATT double data deal right before we went on the road and have 80 GB of data available each month, and we use every bit of it every month. Plus we have added a second Verizon phone with 1GB of data for those areas where ATT doesn’t work, just so we can always have phone service.   Every time we talk about changing this up we decide not to yet because we are mobile workers who rely heavily on the internet.  Yes, there are some grandfathered unlimited plans out there, but we have a friend who works at Verizon and she was very clear that they put you in the slow speed traffic lane with those plans.  Lee has had some success using free WiFi at libraries, coffee shops etc, but the bandwidth of those places is very hit and miss.  Part of his video business is uploading huge files and we simply cannot always be someplace where there is free wifi or wait the 8 hours it might take on slow bandwidth to upload a file.  We also tried Direct TV, absolutely hated it, and now we just download any TV we watch. We love this “on demand” approach and since we have been many places where we got no antenna television it continues to be important.  So after much discussion we are going to leave this one alone, just change the budget to include the Verizon phone.  We are always on the lookout for a truly stable internet solution, but until something better comes along, it is what it is.  The good news is we can write-off 40% of these costs for business expenses which is a good thing. 

Home Improvement – We spent $314 a month in this category.  If Lee ever gets our Mods page done I could show you all the cool stuff we got for that and then maybe you would nod your head and think “not so bad”.  Keep in mind this is parts only as I am lucky enough to have free labor with Lee.  It is almost all modifications or enhancements to our living situation and every single one of those purchases made my life easier.  So I struggle with this one as usual.  What do we set it at for next year?  Lee feels we have done most of what needs to be done but I do not agree.  There is always new stuff you can do and Lee likes to tinker.  It makes him happy.  If we had plenty of revenue I would say screw it and raise the budget, but that’s probably not going to be the case, so we may leave it alone at $200 a month and see what happens. 

Truck Insurance – This ran us $1505.56 and was worth every penny.  When Lee put regular gas in the diesel engine Putting Regular Gas in a Diesel Engine  and we lost our engine we filed a claim and ended up getting a new engine for the $1000 deductible which was a savings of $18K for the engine and a months worth of rental car fees.  I don’t know yet if they will be raising our rates for this year but I am extremely happy with the service we received from Allied Insurance which is a policy we got from Miller Insurance company that specializes in full timers.  Since this is the first claim we have filed in the 25 plus years we have carried our own car insurance I don’t feel bad overall, but since we were relatively new with Allied when we filed the claim unless their prices become extremely unreasonable we will be staying with them for a long time to come. 

RV/Truck Maintenance – We had $600 dollars for the year here and ended up going over by $831 for the new front tires and alignment we needed on the truck.  We had two great maintenance plans with Ford and everything including oil changes is covered, but tires and alignments are not.  We believe that the truck tires were not aligned properly from the factory (since the wear was even on both front tires) and hope this was a one-time occurrence.  The other money we spent was on my mobile office equipment in the truck and on putting Lee’s tools in the truck, also one time expenses. We will probably leave this at $25 a month though for windshield wipers and fluid, DEF outside of our schedule oil changes, and other incidentals, but hopefully it comes in under budget next year.

Gifts –  Despite Lee giving me a hard time about this category I only spent $1055 or  $88 a month on average and we used to spend that on Christmas alone.    Still I was definitely over budget by $505. I have settled on just buying for nieces and nephews and our girls and their spouses. I am also buying my parents a mothers day and fathers day present.  So I will budget that out and maybe add a little extra for the very occasional unplanned gift such as a wedding or special birthday.  This is my Home Improvement category because I think all gifts are good all the time.  But we don’t have an unlimited budget so will need to try to do better.  Honestly though I am not trying that hard.

Electronics and Software –  We spend $10 a month on Microsoft Office (which is tax deductible) and this includes music and games money.  This category made me nuts in the beginning because there is nothing concrete to show for it, but really for the year $400 isn’t that much for all things software.  I will adjust the budget to reflect the $400 a year as I think that is a fair dollar amount. 

RV Registration – We are Florida residents and RV registrations are always in December so this is actually 1-1/2 years of registration.  VERY reasonable compared to other states.  For example, New Hampshire was around $1400 the first time we registered.  If we would have registered in North Dakota we would have had to pay a one time tax of $2500 ( because we bought the RV in a no tax state).  So really overall I was happy. 

RV Insurance – We have a Full-Timers policy with $30K in personal items insurance, so I feel this is a very reasonable price.  Thankfully we haven’t needed to use it, but well worth the piece of mind and although you might be able to find a cheaper policy, having one that knows you are a full-timer was really important to me.  Again the Insurer was Allied and we purchased through Miller Insurance out of Oregon.

Tolls and Parking – Once we left Florida this pretty much stopped being an issue, but we did spend quite a bit in the Florida area.

Truck Registration – This was more than we expected, but the bulk of it was a one time transfer expense and again this was way higher in our prior home state of New Hampshire.

Clothing – At $1400 this was much higher than we thought but around $500 was clothing purchased for Katy’s wedding.  Some of it was normal clothing expenses, but mostly it was T-Shirts from the places we went.  I have this idea that I am going to make a quilt out of all these shirts some day, plus I like the two shirts which are clothing and serve as a memento.  I think the original amount of $600 a year was fair, and if you take out the big dollar purchases for special events we are probably close to that.

Laundry – Thrilled that we only spent $70 in laundry this year. We love our Splendide and use it for almost everything only going to laundromats when we are boondocking for long stretches or the laundry has piled up to the point that we need to do several loads at once. Work Kamping often provides free laundry facilities or full hookups so the laundry expense has been a nonissue for us. I am going to adjust this down to $10 a month next year.

Propane – We spent a ton of money in Glacier on propane and with the rain and cold in Quartzsite are spending more again here.  Generally though we use very little and with the free propane in the Redwoods and the propane credit from Susanville we actually only spent $16.81 total!!  I am going to leave this at $10 a month though for next year.

Membership Fees – This included our $100 for our annual Amazon Prime membership, our American Express card,  the current cost of my blog website, our Escapees membership, and Passport America.  $551 seems like quite a bit but we feel the extra AmEx points, free Amazon shipping, and campground discounts more than made up for most of it it.  I am going to adjust the budget to reflect what we are actually spending.

Income Tax Prep Fee – Since we had a house sale last year and we are filing a Schedule C this year for the first time, I will be using a professional for the time being.  This year I plan on using Travel Tax who specializes in people who work in multiple states and will increase the budget to $300. 

RV Loan Payments – We are now totally debt free except for our $400 monthly RV loan payment.  Obviously it would have been better to have no loan and we did talk about staying in New Hampshire and living in an apartment for an extra year to pay off the camper, but if I had to do it again I would do exactly the same.  Getting a one year jump start on this life is so worth the payment and I don’t think the $400 will make or break us.  If it was $1000 yes, I would say to stay and pay down that debt first, but I can live with one “house payment” plus the interest is tax deductible since this is our primary residence.

Miscellaneous – This included some of the one-time costs for the year but certainly not all. I didn’t take it out though because it also has some uncategorizeable expenses and it really wasn’t that much money in the grand scheme of things.

Mail Service – Mail service includes any money we spent on shipping or postage, and was much more than we anticipated at $800 for the year. Much of that were one-time priority mailings associated with house closings, becoming new Florida residents, and me quitting my job and we do not think those will occur again.  You also need to be careful about mail services, because they do really charge high fees for priority mail, so some of this was a learning curve as we understood how the process works. Next year we did increase the budget to reflect more priority shipping because when you are moving frequently you need to pay extra for 2 day shipping sometimes. Oh, and we do everything online that we can, but don’t kid yourself.  There is still lots of stuff out there that is only sent through regular mail.

Cigarettes – This was by far the most exciting story as we went from $600 a month in a sticks and bricks to $120 a month on the road.  We simply could not have afforded this lifestyle with that big of an expense and rolling our own makes it work.  I get a lot of questions about this category because it varies so much from month to month, but basically, when we are someplace that the prices are good, we pre-buy as much tobacco and tubes as we can and store it. Tobacco costs vary significantly from state to state.  I promise if I quit smoking I’ll let you know, but in the interim a zero for the month in this column simply means we are using what we’ve stocked up.

Personal Care –  This is haircuts, nails, waxing etc.  I was routinely spending $100 a month alone in this category before and starting out at $50 a month for both of us was too aggressive.  Then I adjusted to $100, but it turns out we spent $63 a month on average.  I am going to put this at $75 and see what happens, but this is not an insignificant change for most women.  To acheive this kind of budgets I do my own nails, only got 2 pedicures last year, and pretty much stopped getting my hair dyed.  It hasn’t been a huge sacrifice or anything but it did require some changes to how I thought about things.

Healthcare – I did NOT include healthcare in my budget numbers last year, but it ended up I was spending about $368 a month as subsidized by my company.  That subsidy is gone in March and COBRA jumps to $1K a month.  Yes, that is not a typo.  That is definitely not going to work so I put in a $150 placeholder in the budget below.  We don’t really know how much money we will be making next year so it is really tough to tell what our costs will be.  We decided we would underestimate our income and pay the lesser amount because we believe there is no penalty.  As soon as we settle into the Affordable Healthcare coverage we will let you know.  We also have $12K in HSA funds available to us so thankfully we will have no additional out of pocket expenses unless something catastrophic happens.

FY16 Budget

2016 Budget using the spreadsheet from Rv-Dreams to track which I highly recommend. 

So we are still looking at $46K next year and that is assuming very low health care costs. That number is not so scary though if you look at it a couple of ways. Lee and I are both able bodied, so we would just need to bring in $23K each to make that worth.  Plus, this is in no way a bare bones budget.  There are several areas where we could trim the fat, the question becomes do we want to?  There is a tipping point between working so much you don’t enjoy your life and not having enough money to have a quality life.  Where that point is every individual person needs to decide, and it could change over time.  What I thought was an absolute requirement a year ago, is different than how I feel now and I expect next year I might feel differently again.  I do know that I will keep talking about it in the blog next year.  I will keep reporting our expenses, talking honestly about what the life looks like for us on a budget, and let you know what is working and what is not.  That is what Howard from RV-Dreams did for me and ultimately his honesty gave me the courage to try this lifestyle.  The least I can do is pay it forward a little bit, but please please remember: your mileage will vary.  This is our truth, and yours will ultimately be what you make of it.

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First Time in Quartzsite

When we first started talking about this lifestyle, Lee always talked about wanting to go to the desert, and Quartzsite, AZ.  The thought of being stuck in the desert with no services scared the crap out of me, and smart man that he is, Lee backed off on the desert talk and baby-stepped me into the lifestyle.  So now a year later we are finally here and I give him full credit for the approach.  I find myself remarkably comfortable here, which I never would have been a year ago, and I am surprised by this so I want to share those first impressions with you, but please understand that I am in no way an expert and my experience could vary quite a bit from your experience.

So let’s start with what Quartzsite is.  It’s a nice little desert town on I-10 about 15 minutes east of the California border, an hour and a half north of Yuma, and two hours west of Phoenix. It is more or less surrounded by BLM land. Because the BLM Long Term Visitor Area is so inexpensive (Either $40 for two weeks, or $180 for the 7 months of fall and winter) it is a popular destination for RVers looking for somewhere inexpensive to stay during the winter. The town largely exists to support those RVers through the sale of water, propane, groceries, and lots of RV specific items and they have tons of RV parks with full hookups for those who don’t want to boondock (camp with no services).  Also for 1 week in January there is a HUGE RV show where RV vendors come from all over to sell their wares to the 250,000 to 1 million RVers who show up during that week.  That week is a totally different experience because lots of folks simply come here for one week and move on.  Since we arrived earlier than the show, my first impression is more about Quartzsite during a non-show week than during the show itself.  I will do a separate post and share what happens that week, but it’s an important distinction to make. Basically when people talk about Quartzsite they use the term interchangeably for the RV Show, camping on BLM land, and the town.  It can be very confusing and conventional wisdom could be referring to any of the three.   So again my first impressions are of the beginning of January (prior to the show week) and camping on BLM land.

People make really cool sand art . Lee snapped this pic with his drone. It was huge

People make really cool sand art . Lee snapped this pic with his drone. It was huge

I was pretty nervous about the experience and thankfully some very good RV Dreamers friends of ours Red and Pam were already at Quartzsite and this was their second year.  They talked us through finding the Long Term Visitor Area where they were, (BLM has numerous areas and unless you know exactly where your friends are you probably won’t find them) and they led us back.  Right off the bat we needed $40 cash (or a check) to pay for the first two weeks.  Since we only had $32 and no checks (seriously I need to get some checks as this keeps coming up) we were in a pickle.  Thankfully the two camp hosts were extremely nice.  Once I apologized, they said to go on back and pay in the morning and the first night was on them.  They also shared the best breakfast place in town where for $9 we could get a huge omelet big enough for two!! The campground also has  big metal trash dumpsters, dump stations, and water (potable but I wont be using it for drinking water) on the property so unlike true boon docking where it cost nothing you have access to these services.  There are also other BLM areas here that have no services at all, and those areas are free. In my mind $40 was a small price to pay for access to water in particular and I was happy we chose one of the La Posa sites.  Red has a 4 wheel quad and he brought us back a couple of miles to where they were parked.  It was tough deciding where to put the rig because there is so much choice.  There are no lines, or designated spots, heck the road is more of a suggestion, so everyone waited patiently while we picked our spot.  Despite my mental picture it isn’t a “parking lot”, though.  There are mountain views on three sides and some vegetation including huge cacti, Tamarind trees, and shrubs.  Plus there are fire pits around that people have created (be careful you don’t drive over them because they might have nails in them) and rock “boundaries” created by current or past residents.  Then you want to think about which way the wind is blowing, where the sun sets (for the views), and how can you carve out a little space for yourself.  We chose a site parallel to Red and Pam, but not too close, facing the mountains with a large empty space in front and after minimal setup we walked over to our RV dreams reception.

Our new front yard...not so bad

Our new front yard…not so bad

Groups often camp together here and some RV Dreamers have congregated together.  Steve and Diane, who had been Rving for 5 years, are the experts and they were waiting along with Ellen and Mario, and Jim and Barb.  It was so nice that everyone was waiting for us and was helping us get acclimated it really made me emotional.   It’s a lot less scary parking in the middle of the desert when you have friends close by.  We had a couple of drinks, lots of laughs and some happy hour snacks and then Pam and Red fed Lee and I dinner.  Things are very casual here because everyone is really trying to make their resources, water, tank space, etc, last but I was happy to see that the RV-Dreams tradition of cooking for folks who come to you on your travel day was alive and well.  We called it an early night though because we were still getting settled in.  The next day was all about getting settled.  I had three cardboard boxes of food in the living room and all my cabinets needed to be reorganized.  Plus I really wanted to build a rock front yard, so Pam came over in the quad and helped me find rocks and set up the boundaries.  We both have kind of large spaces marked off for those folks who may be getting in later and it was strange how happy that little rock boundary made me feel.  It’s weird isn’t it that even though we are in the middle of nowhere the human imperative is to “stake a claim.”  Oh and by the way, the rock boundary is technically against the rules but it seems like during off-season they don’t really enforce it.

First Quartzsite campfire next to Pam and Red's rig

First Quartzsite campfire next to Pam and Red’s rig

Mario, Ellen, Jim and Barb

Mario, Ellen, Jim and Barb

Diane is in the pink shirt and Steve is next to her

Diane is in the pink shirt and Steve is next to her

Me and Pam after building our rock campfire pit...good workout

Me and Pam after building our rock campfire pit…good workout

The Quad made building the rock line much easier

The Quad made building the rock line much easier

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Our "Site"

Our “Site”

Speaking of the rules, that was the only sour note of the entire experience.  Quartzsite will hopefully be a great opportunity for Lee to make money as an RV Tech and we purchased a big banner in preparation as a marketing tool.  Right away people started talking about the fact that we couldn’t put it up because a commercial permit might cost as much as $1400.  What??  Crazy.  Here’s the thing;  we are trying to work.  We need to work and even though it’s super cheap to stay here there is still money coming out for food and propane.  So Lee read the very long list of rules and it stated that he should call the Yuma BLM office for more information.  He did and left a message and finally the BLM got back to us.  According to the email  we needed a liability policy, pay a $100 permit fee and report gross sales at the end and give the BLM 3% of the gross sales.  I didn’t have an issue with any of that, but I was pretty bummed that we hadn’t done all this in advance.  We need to mail the permit information because they need a hard copy signature and the back and forth will cut into the time we have to actually make money.  Still it was good to know because staying here may be part of our future winter plans.

On a completely different note, did I mention the rain?  Yes, apparently we brought it with us, and it rained on and off Monday and Tuesday.  It is the desert so rain is pretty rare, but seriously, this rain is following us.  And it did pour on Tuesday night so when you are picking your campsite I recommend the more rocky areas rather than sand because little streams started to form.  They were all gone the next day, but the ground is so hard it takes a while for the water to sink in.  With the rains came clouds and less sun for the solar panels.   We had to run the generator some, but really it wasn’t too bad as the batteries did a nice job holding their charge.  Plus we had some experience in Glacier with no sun and this wasn’t nearly as cold.  It is chilly though, 45 or so in the morning and windy, but it’s really nice when the sun is out and the wind dies down.  Just don’t think it’s going to necessarily be hot and dusty because so far that has not been our experience.  Since it was raining there was no outside happy hour, so we went over to see Ellen and Mario at their campground Quail Run which is a very nice campground with full hookups in town that is only $350 a month (plus electric) if you stay for more than one month.  The sites are on the large side, especially for this area, and they have a great clubhouse, laundry room, and did I mention full hookups? The four of us caught up and we had a terrific conversation with Ellen about marketing our Videography business.  Ellen just retired as a pharmaceutical rep and is an excellent salesperson and gave us some great advice on how to open dialogues with potential customers about doing videos for their websites.  She even volunteered to make a few initial calls with us so we could see her technique.  Seriously, RV-Dreamers are the best people and really take care of each other.

Red topping off our water with the extra he had brought back, cause he's sweet like that

Red topping off our water with the extra he had brought back, cause he’s sweet like that

HEre's the tank he bought

Here’s the tank Red  bought and Jim (pictured) is putting some stuff in storage here at the end of the season and is going to let Red put the barrel in with his stuff

And the pump

The pump seems pretty simple

On Tuesday, we spent some time exploring the town while we waited for Steve and Deb to get here.  We wanted to do the same thing for them that Red and Pam had done for us, so we stayed close so we could lead them back and make them dinner.  The town is small, but jam-packed full of stuff and as Ellen says has a flea market “feel” to it.  Lots of vendors are in the process of setting up for the big show, but a few were open and we wandered around a bit.  There are also huge gem stone permanent vendors here and with my love of rocks I was in heaven.  We could definitely go a little crazy here buying stuff, so really need to be careful, but there are some really good deals. I did buy a rock for 48 cents so I am not going totally crazy! We went into a few of the permanent businesses, some were great, others not so much, and then headed back to meet Deb and Steve.  Even though it was raining, everyone walked over to say hi and then I got their dinner started.  Setting up is much easier when you don’t have to hook up and within 45 minutes we were in our RV laughing, talking, and catching up.  They have been with family the last couple of months and really missed being on the road, and since we haven’t seen them in 4 months we all had a lot to talk about.  Around 9:30 they left to finish setting up and we went to bed.  Early to bed and early to rise is definitely going to be my schedule here and I have to say I like it much better than I though I would.  It isn’t just a big hole in the desert.  There is life here and variety and I am excited about the rain stopping and getting out to explore the wilderness a bit.  Now that I am here I am wondering what I was so afraid of. We have 4 bars of ATT and 22 television channels!  We have definitely been in more remote areas! I hear the internet slows to a crawl during the RV Show week, and I’ll let you know, but I definitely get why people come here and stay.  If we can just work out the RV business, this could definitely be a repeat winter location for us. It’s cheap, the views are great, and friends are close by.  What more could you ask for?

The RV-Dreams Gang

The RV-Dreams Gang who is here so far. From Bottom left:  Allen and Donna, Jim and Barb, Pam and Red, Lee and Trace, and Deb and Steve.  Oh and Steve and Diane who got here first and have been on the road 5 years are the lone RV behind our loop.

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December 2015 Budget

We knew we were going to blow the budget for December, but it wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be, plus we finally got one full year’s worth of numbers which is exciting but I am going to cover that in a separate post.  So here’s December, but keep in mind it included Christmas, 10 days with my youngest daughter, much more entertainment activities than we would usually do, and The Rose Bowl Hop.  It could have been tons worse!!

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Campground Fees – We’re really happy with this category.   We had the end of work kamping, then the Monterey Racetrack, which I would never stay at again but was light on the budget, and the Rose Bowl, which was included in the package price.  I considered the HOP our “vacation” for the year and since it came out of savings the cost of the HOP itself is not included in this budget.  The incidentals are here, which were significant, but those are in the dining out and entertainment sections.

Groceries – This is high because we stocked up for Quartsitze on dry goods.  We are not the only ones.  Lots of folks did that before coming here and I don’t regret it, although there are more grocery store options here than I originally thought.  We are stocked up on condiments and dry goods for a while so hopefully that will help us in early 2016.

Dining Out – This is the highest for the entire year.  Kay paid for her own meals, but we ate out with her and Nick and Slushie a few times.  Plus many of the activities we chose to do didn’t lend themselves to packing a lunch.  I’m not saying we couldn’t have done it, but it would have been awkward.  We ate twice on the Hearst Castle day and lunch on the Equefest day all of which were expensive.  Thankfully the Rose Bowl Parade and the Parade of Floats eating out hit the next year.

Entertainment – For all that we did I was pretty happy where this ended up and we did show some self restraint by skipping Alcatraz and the Monterey Aquarium.  This dollar amount included the Winchester Mystery House and Hearst both of which were hefty days along with the Star Wars Movie and It’s a Wonderful Life.  Sometimes you just have to say “What the heck?”, and enjoy yourself.

Truck Fuel – Very high because of all the local running around we did.  This was without driving at all the last week of the month too (we used the tour bus) or it would have been much worse.  We ran Kay back and forth between the campground and her school several times, traveled along the coast several times, and had two relocations.  But we did watch out for the cheaper gas prices which helped and stayed away from buying gas near San Francisco when we could.

Home Improvement – There was a camping world close to the campground in Pasadena and we bought a pump for getting freshwater into the rig (needed it for Quartszite) and a Magma Saute pan which we have been looking for but didn’t know it actually existed.  It is the only thing missing from my awesome stackable pans.

Clothing – I spent $55 on a Rose Parade Bowl fleece (and don’t feel bad about it in the slightest) and we both bought Lions Club float shirts which is more of a donation since 100% of the revenue goes towards a very good charity.  Plus we got a cool shirt out of the deal.

Propane – The check for propane from Susanville finally came and since this is a direct benefit of a work kamping job I am removing it from the yearly budget.

Misc – We spent $90 for a truck full of wood stocking up for Quartzsite

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